spn comments

[ysobel]

So, I just finished watching last night's SPN.

It was ... ow. And not really the good kind of ow.

(Note that due to the way I watch, I don't get previews, and I try to avoid rumors, so I end up going into the eps more or less unspoiled.)

Ellen and Jo being in the ep was a definite yay until it turned in to not-yay. I loved Jo through all of it, and I am relieved that at least their deaths had some amount of agency and purpose, but the very fact that that is not a given is disappointing. And though I've stayed out of the skeevy-gender-issues wank, SPN really *isn't* good with female characters and keeping them alive.

(It also kind of josses a fic I have wherein there is a necessarily-future segment involving Jo. Bother. Still going to write it, though.)

I feel like I should have more to say, but I'm still caught up in a messy loop of "argh they killed off Ellen and Jo".

(and it's not the good kind of argh, either. it's the "I want to undo this episode" sort.)

Comments

[sophie]

I don't even know what SPN is, so I figured I was free to read this.

I am interested in the way you said that it josses a fic of yours. I know what you meant, but a part of my mind can't help but link it to Joss Whedon, and from there to Firefly...

Yeah, Firefly got jossed.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this.

[ysobel]

*snicker*

(and linking it to Joss Whedon is perfectly okay given that that's where the term came from. In my fannish lexicon, "jossed" is when you're writing something that gets contradicted in canon, and "kripked" is when you're writing something that then happens almost exactly that way in canon, and they come from Joss (really from Buffy era rather than Firefly) and Kripke (who's the very mean person doing spn).)

[sophie]

Oh, right.

That's... strange, since I swear I've seen the term used before Joss' time to mean something got cancelled or something like that. I was working from that definition.

Maybe I'm just misremembering...

[wyrdkat]

I was spoiled to the degree that I had heard that two characters were going to die in this episode but I had no idea who. I did guess it would be Ellen and Jo once the credits ran though. (I don't see any previews either the way I watch).

I was bummed but I was seriously bummed about two episodes ago and it's kind of just going downhill for me now at this point :(