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Apr. 30th, 2016 09:27 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ysobelI'm confused, welshwise.
Dydy Owen ddim eisiau pannas = Owen doesn't want parsnips.
Mae Owen eisiau pannas = Owen wants parsnips
Ydy Owen eisiau pannas? = Does Owen want parsnips
Mae Owen yn bwyta/hoffi pannas = Owen eats/likes parsnips
I haven't figured out why eisiau doesn't require the yn that other verbs do -- but the (d)ydy/mae thing is throwing me off. (First person seems to use dw for both; second person uses dych and I don't know if there's an alternate; and I forget all the plurals.)
As much as I like duo's use of phrases and sentences rather than memorizing charts, sometimes it drives me absolutely batshit.
ETA -- per Wikipedia, the verb meaning to-be inflected for tense and, in present/past, has special interrogative and negative forms. Still want a chart though.
Also per Wikipedia, yn is the equivalent of -ing, wedi makes it perfect (so I guess Mae Owen wedi hoffi pannas = Owen liked parsnips, whereas Roedd Owen yn hoffi pannas = Owen was liking parsnips, or something) but that doesn't explain why eisiau doesn't use yn/wedi/newydd...
ETA 2 -- per reddit (lol), yn/wedi/newysd are aspect markets that apply to most verbs, but eisiau, which is also spelt isio, is an exception. Which makes me feel oddly better. (Apparently it's not really a true verb, and the 'proper' construction would be equivalent to "the desire for whatever is at me", so it's just a special snowflake.) and the ydy/mae forms I've put in a comment on this entry.
Dydy Owen ddim eisiau pannas = Owen doesn't want parsnips.
Mae Owen eisiau pannas = Owen wants parsnips
Ydy Owen eisiau pannas? = Does Owen want parsnips
Mae Owen yn bwyta/hoffi pannas = Owen eats/likes parsnips
I haven't figured out why eisiau doesn't require the yn that other verbs do -- but the (d)ydy/mae thing is throwing me off. (First person seems to use dw for both; second person uses dych and I don't know if there's an alternate; and I forget all the plurals.)
As much as I like duo's use of phrases and sentences rather than memorizing charts, sometimes it drives me absolutely batshit.
ETA -- per Wikipedia, the verb meaning to-be inflected for tense and, in present/past, has special interrogative and negative forms. Still want a chart though.
Also per Wikipedia, yn is the equivalent of -ing, wedi makes it perfect (so I guess Mae Owen wedi hoffi pannas = Owen liked parsnips, whereas Roedd Owen yn hoffi pannas = Owen was liking parsnips, or something) but that doesn't explain why eisiau doesn't use yn/wedi/newydd...
ETA 2 -- per reddit (lol), yn/wedi/newysd are aspect markets that apply to most verbs, but eisiau, which is also spelt isio, is an exception. Which makes me feel oddly better. (Apparently it's not really a true verb, and the 'proper' construction would be equivalent to "the desire for whatever is at me", so it's just a special snowflake.) and the ydy/mae forms I've put in a comment on this entry.
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Date: 2016-05-01 05:01 am (UTC)Present:
(ry)dw i - 1sg - neg dydw i ddim - question ydw i, answer wyt / ydych
rwyt ti - 2sg familiar - neg dwyt ti ddim - question wyt ti, ans ydw
(ry)dych chi - 2sg polite - neg dydych chi ddim - question ydych chi, ans ydw
mae (noun/name) - 3sg - neg dydy X ddim - question ydy X, ans ydy
mae e - 3sg male
mae hi - 3sg female
(ry)dyn ni - 1pl - neg dydyn ni - question ydyn ni, ans ydyn / ydych
(ry)dych chi - 2pl - neg dydych chi - question ydych chi, ans ydyn
maen nhw - 3pl - net dydyn nhw - question ydyn nhw, ans ydyn
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Date: 2016-05-01 08:11 am (UTC)